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Denise Frenette
September 09, 2008 at 6:35pm
O.K. I'VE got that # 4 printed up. Thats a step closer to reading it. Likely on way to work Friday, if not done before. But, I'm so positive its going to be worth a star that.... here I go
KEN
September 09, 2008 at 7:33pm
Regarding The Law*-and-* Our Lord and Savior, Our Great God, Christ Jesus:  {1. The Law}  {2.  Christ Jesus}. Colossians 2:8-10   Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments F8 of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
Romans 6:14  For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Ro 7:4 
  Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Ro 7:6  But now we are delivered from the law,...

Ephesians 2:14-22 14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Holy Ghost Fire  Holy Ghost fire!!!

KEN
September 09, 2008 at 10:14pm
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Greetings, My Brother!  Well, First of All...I'm Honoring You In Christ Jesus and Enjoying the Privilege of Fellowship With You and Love in Christ. 
You Are Spirit, Body, Mind, Soul, Emotions.  You Can Speak Audibly, and/or, Use Sign Language, Including Writing...Etc.
Language/Speech Allows Thoughts to Be Converted Into a Form Which Allows Others to Know What We Are Thinking.
Indeed, There Is Even 'The Mind of The Spirit'.
If I Write, or, Speak About a Tree, That Does Not Make Me The Tree.  If I Write, or, Speak About Concepts, That Does Not Make Me Those Concepts.  Someone Coined The Phrase 'Everything Is Everything'.  That Is True, But, Our Rational Minds/Brains Wants Us To Separate Things/Concepts Into Distinguishable Parts.  
I Think I See What You Are Saying Olusegun, and, Where You Are Going With This, and, I'm Thrilled and Excited For Your Journey and Growth In Christ Jesus...Just As I Am For Myself.  
Divinity is intellectual, and all intellect Returns Into Itself.  I Think There Is Safety and Logic in Separating The Entity From The Thoughts/Concepts/Inventions Belonging to That Entity.
{{Bro-ken}} Brother Ken ORR.
Holy Ghost fire!!!

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CaptivatedbyLove
September 09, 2008 at 10:59pm

Dude, you rock.  Must be that great Rock in you.  I'm so excited too.  One of my favorite topics.  Thanks for this.  More to prayerfully consider.  Love it!

bar_Queypha Ya_aquov Louquas
September 10, 2008 at 12:04am
good job man!!!!
CaptivatedbyLove
September 10, 2008 at 6:20am
 Brother, love what you added and looking into it.  Just wanted to say this as sometimes I am not sure what your overall picture is, just know there are some wonderful things in there.  This is kinda how I see it in a nutshell.  The heart of the matter is the matter of the heart. 

Jesus kinda said it like this, "You believe you are good because you keep the law?  You are looking at the wrong standard.  If you look upon a woman with lust in your heart you have comitted adultery..."

That says it all.  The heart of the matter is the matter of the heart.  The law cannot justify anyone.  None good, no, not one. 

So, to me what he was saying is that the law was never the actual standard by which salvation and justification would come to men.  That was by grace through faith in Jesus.  The law was put in place to keep us until the standard, Jesus came to dethrone our old nature and now rule in our hearts. 

Yet He did not take down the law.  He didn't lower the bar.  He showed us where it always was, above the law.  He was the bar.  He was the standard.  The law is found in Him and still stands in society as a shadow of God's righteous standard.  If we take down the law we are telling God He is the problem.  The law is there to show us who the real offender is.  He's not the problem.  He's good.  He doesn't die.  We die. 

When Jesus died on the cross our old man / nature died with Him.  Here is where we have circumcision of the heart and He now joins us to His life, two as one.   Jesus joins us to His life and now He raises us above the law where we now live from a heart joined to His.  So it is not a working, it's a joining.  And yes, the law is found in Jesus yet Jesus is so much greater than the law for Jesus is the standard.  Jesus is what a heart connect to Father is.  Here is where fruit of the Spirit is birthed, from our root.  So it is not in works but in His life where we bear his fruit.  And yes, his life will manifest in good works but works is the product of the life, not the means to build the inner life.

So we don't become righteous by following the law.  The law doesn't effect the heart.  It wasn't made for the new man.  It was created for the old carnal man.  And we don't take down the law.  God is not the problem.  Our old nature is. 

The new covenant is like a marriage covenant that now being fused with our bridegroom, two as one, He takes us there. 

I like to think of the law as the police.  Can an officer of the law change your heart?  No but he can lock you up.  We were all locked up under the law.  Yet we who are in Christ have been given liberty through death with Christ on the cross.  Not so we can continue in our old ways.  If we do that we will find ourselves again bound to the law for He have left our covering in Christ. 

The law roars at us like the roaring Lion of Judah.  We are now to do an "about face" and follow the gentle lamb of God.  What began in fear of the Lord has been cast out by perfect love.

They are both God.  The Alpha and Omega.  The beginning and the End.  

Most of this can be found in Romans and Galatians, amongst other books in the bible.  Anyway, think we may be on the same page there and if not, looking forward to sharing and growing with you.  And either way, you got some really good stuff in there that I am really looking forward to getting into.  Nibbled around a bit but still have yet to really prayerfully sit down with it.  Hey, do you know Terre?  He's got great teaching on this stuff too.  I can connect you to his blog.
Kansas City Joe
September 12, 2008 at 8:18pm
Amen..good job.
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